Cynthia Armistead telling someone they have their "Head Up Their Ass!"

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From: see@sig.for.address (Cynthia)
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Subject: Re: Mindspring Spaminator
Date: Thu, 05 Jun 1997 02:13:59 GMT
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On Wed, 04 Jun 1997 21:20:30 -0400, Don Bruder wrote:

>In article <3395f9d5.687630@news.mindspring.com>, see@sig.for.address wrote:
>
>: On Wed, 04 Jun 1997 19:08:54 -0400, Don Bruder wrote:
>: >don't like spam any more than you or I do, and for the most part, have a
>: >similar attitude to Mindspring's on the subject: "Kill it before it gets
>: >out and screws with our good name"
>:
>: Good name? Those mentioned above have no good name with which to
>: screw.

>I'm thinking that you've got a serious case of "type before you know what
>you're typing about" going here...

And you suffer from the same.

>: They provide a web-based interface

>I don't believe that any of the ones listed thus far do that. The only one
>I know of that does/did is the c2.org remailer, but to the best of my
>knowledge, that one has been, for all intents and purposes, shut down for
>at least the last year or so. If my understanding is correct (and I admit,

Try checking https://www.replay.com/remailer/anon.html, It permits the
use of a web-based interface to send male through cajones and
replay.com--without any way for anyone to reply. I didn't check
shell.portal.com, but when someone was sending harassing email through
them to me last year, they had an amazingly hard time keeping my email
address blocked, so I think poorly of them anyway.

>The "anonymous and impossible to trace" part is true. In fact, that's the
>designed purpose. The rest of what you say there just plain isn't.

>If you like, I can give you a demonstration of how one can indeed get
>replies back from messages passed through one of the "normal" (known as
>"Type 1" or "Cypherpunk" in the privacy community) remailers. It involves
>a bit of work on your part, and the willingness to use PGP, but once
>learned, is relatively simple and painless. Penet was in a class all its
>own, in that it worked on a database principal, which lowered its actual
>security value to next-to-none. Why do you think it isn't in business
>anymore? It was too easy (relatively speaking) to compromise. When used
>properly, a type 1 remailer CANNOT be compromised, but can still allow
>two-way conversations between its users.

I already know how to use PGP, and signed all my messages with it
until I complied with the requests of other MindSpring-users that I
not do so here.

>As for "no reason", apparently you're one of the folks who feels that
>anybody who wants to should know who you are, where you live, and enough
>other details about you to learn PRACTICALLY ANYTHING ELSE they want about
>you just because you've stated an opinion on a newsgroup? How about the
>poor S.O.B. who wants to keep his job while reporting an illegal and/or
>dangerous situation in the workplace to OSHA? Perhaps you're not gay (or
>maybe you are?) and therefore have no fear of real-life retaliation from

Again, you don't know what you're talking about. I am someone who
cares passionately about privacy, and I have gone to great lengths to
protect my own privacy--my street address is damn near impossible for
anyone to obtain, as it isn't in any databases you'd be able to access
easily even if you were a very well-connected PI. My phone number
isn't easily obtained either, nor the name of my employer. My voter
registration, vehicle registration and driver's license aren't even
for the county in which I live, although all are current. Those
measures have been sorely tested as my daughter and I have been
stalked for the last year, by the same individual who so loves to use
these anonymous remailers you hold near and dear.

>If you've been "harassed" by a newsgroup posting, then I submit that you
>need to learn to use a killfile. A filter of the form "From: starts with

And again, you don't know what that hell you're talking about. Those
remailers have been repeatedly used to post prostitution ads,
sex-wanted ads and pornography in my name. Their administrators say
there is absolutely nothing they can do. Kilfiles accomplish nothing
against the floods of email from those responding to such ads.

>: see their administrators made legally responsible (in the US, in their
>: countries, bloody well everywhere the internet reaches) for what is
>: done through their little gift to the world. I believe they are highly
>: irresponsible in providing such a service, and that there is no reason
>: to use them other than to harass others.

>Forgive me for saying this so bluntly, but there's no other way to put it:
>You have very clearly demonstrated that you have absolutely no clue about
>the subject you're writing about. Try learning at least a little bit about
>something before you jump on the bandwagon to condemn it. Failing to do so
>leaves you looking foolish.

And you've clearly demonstrated that you have your head up your ass.

Cyn
--technomom@mindspring.com
http://www.mindspring.com/~cynthia